Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”
Fox and Roku, everyone’s two favourite small companies!
Too bad, I was considering their service when my VPN service ran out. Not excluding them outright, but will have to keep a eye on it.
well this makes me slightly less fomo’d after going for tuta and mullvad- but i’m probably jinxing it rn ;-;
Why can’t we have nice things?
Fuck me, I now feel like a clown for taking advantage of that lifetime subscription I bought a couple of months back.
People somehow still surprised by Switzerland being neutral on Naziism
Damn, this sucks. I fled Google for Proton and use it for email, files, and my own domain email.
I wonder what is the percentage of nuts tech ceos.
Seems to be abnormally high
I see a lot of good discussion here. I’ve been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it’s a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.
Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?
Hypothetically, if Hitler saved a child from being hit by a car would you publicly sing Hitlers praises and be happy to make positive quotes about it?
Does being on the right side of a single issue negate everything else?
Another tech dipshit, whose wealth allows him to exist outside the realm of reality, bending the knee to an anti-democratic felon rapist so he can get some handouts.
Pathetic loser.
Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I’d have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.
NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.
framing him as a “tech dipshit” is a mistake, i feel. though it’s definitely true lmao
like all things we should use class to analyse their motivation, and in this case it’s very clear - andy, like mark zuckerburg, elon musk, and jeff bezos, is simply looking after his own interests as a member of the ruling class (that is, the class that owns the means of production under a capitalist system) by ingratiating himself with americas new ruler.
these people will always look after their own class interests before anything else, and it’s through class analyses that we can identify their motivations. here he’s simply trying to raise his own status within his class.
NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.
Have we learned nothing of the whole “spend millions upon millions on YouTube sponsorships” debacle? Nord absolutely is hiding something from us.
If you need to forward ports, AirVPN seems the best right now. Otherwise, Mullvad.
Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I’d have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.
Bill Clinton won reelection. Now, granted, he was not Trump levels, he was a piece of shit who at the very least abused his role and power over women. Now, even after me too, he’s a beloved elder statesman. Just saying, the nation has sunk lower, but I don’t know that’s a lot lower than where we were when we were kids.
In a pre-me too world, I think Clinton’s sexual abuse scandal was far too abstract for people to really grasp. I’m not saying it was okay, I’m just saying I understand it not affecting things. But I would’ve hoped we’d be correcting ourselves over time, not getting worse.
he was a piece of shit who at the very least abused his role and power over women.
And bombed a pharmaceutical factory in Libya to distract people from the fact he couldnt keep it in his pants
FYI, Nord no longer allows port forwarding as of a couple years ago. Proton is one of the few providers who still have that feature.
Compare:
https://support.nordvpn.com/hc/en-us/articles/19483392309649-Does-NordVPN-offer-port-forwarding
I wouldn’t say he embraced Trump, I’d say he is pro-breaking big tech, since that would probably help Proton.
Bernie Sanders even came out and said “hey, if Trump wants to cap credit card interest rates, I’m with him on that.”
Trump says a lot of shit to appeal to working class people. I don’t disagree with reminding him of what he said and holding him to those things, if he’s now going to be president.
this is true! it’s not that he loves donald trump and hates wokeism. it’s that he’s focused on his own class interests.
as a member of the ruling class it’s his prerogative to gain more capital, and as a “small” tech company it’s within his interests to weaken the big FAANG (or whatever the new acronym is) companies. he’s hoping to supplant them with his own services (Which is why protonmail has expanded their services so much in recent years)
Under the divine guidance of Elon Musk, I strongly doubt if emperor Trump will break any big tech. More likely he’ll pat them on the back (while requiring more surveillance data to be submitted).
It’s not even a matter of “thinking” that, it’s basically what he said. All his “siding” is in the context of antitrust and breaking tech monopolies. I don’t think trump will do much in this space, but dems didn’t do much either. If Trump will (the election is over anyway, so we are not discussing of choosing trump for this) it’s good, even if it comes from the Trump administration.
hahs
I literally just switched over from Google a few months ago and finally got all settled in. Just great. Does anyone know of any good alternative? I know Tuta exists, are there other options?
posteo: https://posteo.de/en I am using their service since roughly 10 years and am completely satisfied :)
FWIW if you switched once then next switch is RADICALLY easier.
Well, switching from Proton was more painful for me, at least on a free account, as it won’t gel with a desktop client like Thunderbird or Outlook, and last I checked, didn’t allow email forwarding.
Imagine switching from based proton just cuz CEO agrees with Trump.
Imagine staying onboard with someone promoting nearly every horrible thing in our world just so you can have easier email access.
I mean, they showed agreement on one issue, which is obviously important for Proton and as a consequence beneficial for the general population (fairer competition with privacy respecting companies).
If you think Trump covers “nearly every horrible thing in our world”, what do you say about the world from since you can remember until 2017 and again from 2021 till now?
I’ve liked my experience setting up Purelymail with a custom domain!
Same here. Fuck me.
DisRoot ?
I’m on the same boat :')
I know there’s Fastmail, but I don’t know if they have privacy on the level of Proton. I just know that one of the hosts on a tech podcast that I listen to moved there from Google and was impressed at how smooth the process was.
I just got started with mailbox.org. So far so good!
This is a stretch & honestly not worth abandoning proton because of this. Don’t just abandon a good FOSS/Privacy project just because of a CEO’s (of a frickin Non-Profit) statements, you’re too busy arguing & not getting things done Have some nuance guys
Could be 1000+ IQ chess move in disguise, appeal to Trump’s ego & get him to make trouble for big-tech
Nah he can go fuck himself. Just like someone sucking up to any other fascist dictator.
What’s that, Lassie? Another platform that’s not self hosted outing themselves as a chud? Well, I never!
Email is notoriously hard to self host. It requires constant care, planning, and interfacing with the big guys when your email can’t get delivered despite jumping through all the hoops (DKIM, DMARC, SPF and more).
I used to run email services for my small business and former start-up. It was a never-ending pain. IP warming, monitoring, deliverability checks…. blah blah blah.
Both Google and Microsoft would regularly blacklist massive IP address blocks because of one bad IP address. Days to weeks for resolution in some cases.
I’m a little salty though ‘cause I just switched to proton away from RackSpace. There are so few good and reliable options that aren’t the big guys and the big guys want it that way.
