For example, the guy in the vid thinks china is state capitalism
They are correct about China being state capitalism, they admit as much. But China also says they have socialism with Chinese characteristics. It can be both. Every society has a base and a superstructure.
Edit: It would be nice of the four people who downvoted me to actually explain why they disagree, because I don’t know. Show yourselves cowards.
It’s in a long term transition. The end goal is communism, but as it is china is in a capitalist global economy which makes any transition to communism at best unsustainable and at worst straight up impossible. Over the last half century china has opened itself up for the most powerful countries in the world to transfer their industry to them, and in the process has created a relationship that makes attacking china much harder than previous communist states like the soviet union. Unfortunately that means that the workers’ situation was pretty rough for a long time but they have been improving that too recently, it it likely wouldn’t have been much better under a fully capitalist country either.
Do any of the socialist countries (vietnam, cuba, china, etc) have any particularly interesting interactions since they not capitalist?
Socialist is such a polysemous word that you could be defending that China is socialist, and me the opposite, while aggreing on the facts…
If you define socialism as the step after communism once you destroyed the state, it clearly isn’t ! But I admit this is not the only definition people give to socialism.
You mixed up the terms. Communism is the one without state.
As someone else pointed out, socialism is the step before communism where you still have class society, therefore, I would say China is socialist, because the means of production are in the hand of the proletariat but you haven’t eradicated bourgeoisie class completely.
China is a market based socialist economy, not just “haha state capitalism, bad!”
“who owns the land”
Capitalism is about ownership of the means of production. Land is only a minor and usually non-relevant part of this. Your question would be correct for feudalism.
land is a primary factor of production. the producers basically rent from the state which owns all land. And even still, who owns and controls key sectors of the economy? who controls the towering heights? is it the capitalist class? or the Party? lol
What’s the difference between the capitalist/owning class and the state at that point?
The state in the form of the Communist Party of China represents the proletariat and acts in their favour, the bourgeoisie acts in their own favour and against the lower classes.
