I’m a heavy emoji user, texting is such a poor medium for communication, many times people get the wrong message, but with an emoji you’ll get an idea of the face I’m making, so less chance of misunderstanding
I noticed that every time I add an emoji to a comment it gets downvoted, so I tested my theory, wrote a comment without an emoji, got upvotes, went back and added an emoji, got downvotes…
On Reddit people use emojis a lot, on Lemmy I NEVER saw anyone use emojis, my account is new but still for the time I spent here, I never saw the use of emojis
So, is it just me, have you noticed this small detail ? and do you miss emojis the way I do ? 😭
On Reddit people use emojis a lot
I find this really funny. I used reddit for about a decade, and I remember redditors absolutely hating emojis. Reddit really changed, in the time I used it, and rarely did it change for the better.
I also remember a lot of hate for emojis on Reddit. Or maybe it’s just the communities I frequented. But, most of the hate I saw linked them to Twitter and a dumbing down of discourse. I have the same sort of reaction to them, but I also recognize that they are becoming normalized in discourse and I really shouldn’t have such a negative reaction. Some day, we’ll probably have some make their way into formalized English and you would be considered weird, archaic and backwards for not using them. Consider how we now see the use of the words “thee” and “thou”. Those used to be normal, but people got lazy and just started using “you” everywhere, despite it being the “wrong” usage. Now, it’s just normal.
I hated when they started allowing animated gifs in the comments.
“You” isn’t lazy usage of “thou”, they’re both modern representations of “þou”, the old spelling which changed to accommodate printing technology. “You” uses one fewer letter, so it became the preferred spelling.
The normies took over.
Says a guy with a profile picture.
V😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 We Are Anti-Normie old man🧓 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😹👻🇵🇸🇺🇸😭😈😡🦅🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🪠🪠Vvv
Come to say the same thing. I guess it’s mostly old grouchy people like us that moved on to the Feddiverse lol
When the Redditpocalypse started and we all came this way, someone made a post about this very thing. I still stand by my statement that day (which I paraphrase):
I don’t care about emoji’s enough to whine until it’s excessive. Reddit’s insistence that one “😀” is the end of the world was pants-on-head-stupid. Use emoji’s all you fuckin’ want, but if you start putting 3+ in 1 comment I’m going to prep a straight jacket for the person.
Since the app basically. Influx of younger and mostly mobile users really changed the platform
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Downvotes aren’t gonna stop me posting this lil guy 🐢
He’s cute 😊
I like turtles
It’s obviously a dog.
Thats a tortoise 🤓
Or is it? Emoji designs can vary wildly between devices. Most notably the gun emoji, which is (was?) Either depicting a water gun, or a real gun, depending on the device.
(In this case you’re correct though, it is in fact a tortoise on every device listed here. But that emoji is named turtle!)
For me personally, it annoys me when emojis are used as a lazy replacement for language and it quickly deteriorates into 🥺🥺😭😭😢😭😭😰😰🙏🙏🙏 sort of bullshit.
In other communication I sometimes throw in a single smiley face because I’ve been told that middle aged women in particular interpret messages as passive aggressive if I don’t.
Except the smiley frequently adds to the aura of passive aggression 😀
I use happier looking smiling faces for that 😊
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Honestly, as long as you’re not going for a clickbait-like thing with lots of 😂, 😭, and 💀, when is not really justified, I don’t really see an issue.
Personally I’ll use ✨, ☺️, 🌸, and 🥺 regularly in my comments as I think they’re cute 🥺✨
Oh, you reminded me with ads that starts with emojis like 🚨 or political posts that are just propaganda…
I used to see a lot of these on Facebook and Gab ( now ), so I just assume the post is going to be either an ad, fake news or just low effort when it starts with an emoji…
I like the use of emojis when it’s justified as you say, like : saying that’s delicious followed by 😋, sounds friendly, even Ai like Copilot is doing it now
And yes they’re cute that’s why I like them… 🐱
Is that better or worse than BREAKING: on every post?
Come to hexbear, we love emojis here lol
I much prefer emoticons over emojis, but I couldn’t tell you why.
Nostalgia :'(
Because we’re the last of the old guard? I’m gen z, and honestly I still prefer emoticons, probably because I grew used to them before emoji
Older gen z and I remember sometime in my mid teens most chat apps started automatically converting emoticons into emojis. It bugged me to hell and back you either had to swap :) to =) or turn them back to front to avoid getting “emojified”
I’ve turned to adding a ZWSP (no width Unicode) between the : and ) parts of the character, that works pretty well. It’s a bit of a hassle, of course
does ü get converted
Nothing beats O.o and :/ for me
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because cute
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It might be an attention thing. With an emoji in a post your eyes are drawn towards the cute colorful picture before you l’ve read the content of the post. Emoticons on the other hand don’t stand out as much, but serve a similar purpose: punctuate a thought with an emotion (=
Personally, it’s because emojis are just tiny yellow dots on my phone’s screen.
They hate us for our freedom
There is a spectre haunting lemmy
lemmy users when they see us using all our custom emojis:
To me, using default face emoji gives off the same kind of vibe as still having the setting that adds “Sent from my iPhone” to the footers of your emails enabled. Or driving around a car you’ve purchased with the car dealership branding badges and license plate covers on it. Or using a laptop with all the factory stickers still on it. It signals a kind of “this is fine” lack of care or concern by allowing your own expression to be polluted by pre-canned expressions from a corporation.
Here you have a short list of milquetoast, approved-by-committee standard-issue emotion pictographs. Only the most broadly applicable ones. Perfectly weaponizeable for some airplane food communication by some brand on Twitter or Facebook. And people look at these and go, “Look! That one’s sad! I’m sad! These emojis really ‘get’ me! I’m gonna use them!”
They’re expressive, but only in the ways the platform is permitting you to be expressive. A valid counter argument would be, “Some is better than none”. But I can’t shake feeling like I’m being railroaded into communicating my feelings by approximating them into a small handful of simplified, standardized emotions. And I don’t understand how others are satisfied with that.
Emojis only render a specific way on a specific platform, too. So if you’re using an emoji that feels like it fits your current emotion because it has a very specific, nuanced look to it, but you’re on a platform that doesn’t render them the same for every user, you’ll unwittingly send a completely different signal than you were intending, as your emoji will become mangled into some slightly different emotion depending on who receives it. The only two ways out of this are either staying inside a platform’s walled garden so you only use their standard issue emojis, or you just relegate your communication to being described solely by the broad, vague notions that the emojis represent. Both options are restrictive in ways I dislike.
That isn’t to say that I hate emojis, or that I don’t think they can be used creatively. Ironically, in my opinion, the best uses of emoji are for when you’re using one to communicate any emotion other than the one it was intended for. Exhibit A: how 💀 has almost entirely supplanted 😂 in some circles. Usages like that are communicating more than the sums of their parts in only ways that emoji can achieve, and I find that fascinating. It almost feels like a form of social “recapturing”, taking them away from their usual stiff, corporate vibe and making them something transformative.
It only lasts for a time, though. As the mass market clues in on it and starts to cater to it, the novelty disappears. There was a time when 🍑 and 🍆 were clever innuendo. Nowadays there’s no joke there. That’s just what they mean now. The only ones who think themselves clever or fashionable by using them in that way are doing so in shitty Facebook memes.
The problems I have with emojis mostly only affects the face ones, specifically. The way the human mind is a hyper optimized facial recognition machine amplifies the platform exclusivity problem. Like, you can never have just a smiling emoji. You have to use this platform’s smiling emoji, the way they drew it, expressing all the little microdetails they decided to put onto it. And given how complex emotions can be in particular, the inflexibility of a standard set of face emoji to express yourself with feels significantly more restrictive than, say, not being able to find an emoji for some random object.
Just my two cents, though. At the end of the day, if you send a message to someone, they receive it, and they understand exactly what it is you’ve sent, that’s successful communication. Send those emojis with pride if you believe they enrich what you have to express in ways words can’t. As long as you’re being understood by someone, never let anyone, especially not me, tell you how you should and shouldn’t be able to express yourself.
This is a very well written reply ( it felt like I’m reading from a book: designing emojis ), thanks for sharing
I Totally agree with the fact that emojis can be expressive, but limited to the set of emojis you have on your keyboard/platform, and there are facial expressions that humans do alot but they’re not available on any platform!!
I don’t think anyone will look at my post and say : “wow, OP is crying rivers because he misses emojis”
But I think they’re cute, and personally reading a huge paragraph with no pictures or anything, make me disconnect, in all my notes, the titles and the subtitles have emojis in them ✍️
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That was a joy to read!
hyper optimized facial recognition machine
Reading a book this morning where an alien is confronting a human military commander (on screen) about an extraordinarily fraught situation.
The alien AI translates the human’s face and body language, and gets it right, but it’s second best guess was also correct!
“Must be the first one. No way humans can express 4 contradictory emotions with just facial muscles.”
What book, I’m trynna read it
To me, using default face emoji gives off the same kind of vibe as still having the setting that adds “Sent from my iPhone” to the footers of your emails enabled. Or driving around a car you’ve purchased with the car dealership branding badges and license plate covers on it. Or using a laptop with all the factory stickers still on it. It signals a kind of “this is fine” lack of care or concern by allowing your own expression to be polluted by pre-canned expressions from a corporation.
Counterpoint: “self-expression” through more consumerist markers is no less bullshit. I don’t care about your lifestyle brand and I would, if anything, respect someone more for not paying extra to try to give the affect of being a special little guy when all they are doing is displaying a different flavor of corporate bullshit messaging.
Express yourself in word and deed, not shit you bought.
Your response confuses me.
I agree with everything you said. But I’m not sure which part of what you said is supposed to be a “counterpoint” to what I said…
Well put, I totally agree, I use emojis pretty sparingly, as you said they can be useful sometimes but by and large they feel way too off for me to express my actual emotions, I use them as you say counter to their intended meaning.
And a culture of unicode bullshit allowed infinitely more variety.
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Imagine giving a fuck about who upvotes or downvotes you on Lemmy ☠️
Just use whatever you feel comfortable with it, I sometimes use emojis, other times simple stuff like :) or other times this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
imagine having downvotes
Too bad!
Wow they just like me fr 😔
They were putting an emoji after letters 😆😤
because both letters and emoji together form a word, like b+🌧️ = brain
There’s woodprints from the Black Death that use labels like a doge post.
“This is dumb” doesn’t mean “this is new.”
On Reddit people use emojis a lot
Really? We must have used different subs. Maybe that’s the answer, you’re the only guy from r/emojipasta or whatever to make the switch.
No, first time I heard about that sub is from you 😊
Probably because we on Hexbear use them, and we have a lot of them. Let them seethe.
Main character syndrome bear
because they hate having fun
Never been on Hexbear before, eh?
Ask your admins to implement some emojis. We have them on LW, but nobody ever really use them. Just a culture thing I guess.
I understanding these are not emojis, just pictures that load on the server using HTML, that’s why they appeare bigger on other servers
But that’s what custom emojis essentially are, small pictures you can embed into text, just like with Twitch emotes.
they were emojis before we de-forked, what you see now was how mainline lemmy maintainers wanted the custom emoji feature contributed back to their codebase