- Zune / Windows phone
- Smart glasses
- GNU Hurd
- Microsoft Silverlight
- Firefox OS / Devices
- (soon) SpaceX / Blue Origin
- Make America Great Again 🤣
Make America Great Again
I’d argue that MAGA was successful for its true purpose. It is a slogan that perfectly encapsulates a reactionary mindset. Actually improving America is secondary.
Improving USAmerikkka wasn’t even the intention anyway. It was just improving the lives of white people, mostly just rich white people, with a few crumbs and a lot of racist thinking handed down to the poor white people.
What was GNU Hurd?
A kernel made by GNU
Windows phone had an AR maps app ahead of its time. That app was good.
It’s the windows way. Have some good ideas but completely fail in any other regard.
I believe there is a fork of Firefox OS made for flip phones.
yep, it’s call KaiOS. It’s an alternative + symbolic successor of Symbian.
It doesn’t seen to be open source. Which is a damn shame and definitely not Mozilla’s vision for their project.
It’s very sad, only the core, a fork of B2G, is open (MPL).
See, this wouldn’t be a problem if they used GPL. The issue is that MPL stipulates that the modified files must be open source, while the GPL says that any derivative work must be open source.
The same problem happens with the trademarks. That is one of the reasons to rebranding the mozilla products in FOSS projects (GNU Icecat, Iceweasel, etc.)
Even with Rust.
Crypto-currencies as something other then speculation and scams.
It’s so annoying because the tech behind it all is cool. But no, ppl are just gambling with it.
Most if not all of Elon Musks ideas. And that theranos thing that’s been in the news.
Which of musk’s ideas were going to be big but flopped? I can’t think of any.
With Elon, it’s easy to give examples, because he could brush his teeth and will claim it’s going to revolutionize everything.
The hyperloop proposed 10 years ago was supposed to revolutionize transportation and get you between SF and LA in an hour. It’s totally dead in the water now.Are you sure it’s totally dead in the water?
They’re still going at it but most experts have already denounced it.
The top speed recorded is 288 mph and hasn’t been beaten in 3 years. This isn’t even faster than the fastest train at 374 mph which doesn’t need vacuum tubes. Considering that hyperloop is just a fast train in a vacuum to make it go even faster, you’d expect it to at least beat trains after 10 years of work. So you tell me.
I think it’s supposed to be more efficient, not just fast. I worked with a guy who helped design Maglev trains for China. With my limited knowledge, I’d think that a train floating above a track with no friction and being propelled by a magnetic wave has more potential that a train in a tube. I’m not familiar with the power and technology it takes to create that magnetic wave, but I still think it has more potential. I should have asked how the wave was created, but I was too amazed that the technology even existed.
Idk, I think any argument that hyperloop is more energy efficient goes out the window when you consider the energy costs of having to keep depressurized a 500 mile long tube.
I agree, and if it’s underground, accessibility has to be considered over and above pressurization. It’s more suitable for freight transport than it is moving people. It has to be earthquake-proof in some regions. Logistically, I don’t think it’s a good idea. It’s fun in concept because it makes us think we’re stepping into the future, but there are better visions for our future than a pressurized tube.
The hyperloop is odd actually. Musk didn’t actually want to do it, he just tweeted out some random thing as a reaction to the price of California’s high speed rail proposal, but at that point his fanbase was used to him just doing crazy things so they piled on him. That’s why he set up that competition, to see if it was viable.
Source: his biography
Besides, that it doesn’t matter if musk just claims something, anyone can claim something. Anything he’s gotten behind has succeeded.
It’s easy to succeed when DARPA’s taxpayer money is funding everything. Tesla would have gone bankrupt if not for taxpayer dollar keeping it afloat.
Er, well he did still succeed though and accomplish something existing car companies with billions and billions could or would not. Also, this is besides the point.
He failed miserably. Pending bankruptcy is not success. DARPA succeeded by funding him until he got a product that could make money. DARPA is the U.S. government. It’s me and other taxpayers. All the money he makes now is because the government spent money cushioning his fall so that he could survive. He’s just a face propped up to represent American technology.
I’m not sure what you mean, tesla is not pending bankruptcy.
Anything he’s gotten behind has succeeded.
Like Twitter.
Musk didn’t own twitter when I made that comment. Twitter has revealed how bad he’s gotten. I don’t think my comment applies anymore.
He didn’t just passively tweet about it, he wrote a white paper, built a test track costing no less than $37 million, sponsored competitions from 2015-2019 for who could build the best pod, went on television interviews explaining his idea and claimed it was easy. And he has recently promised building a new test track after all of his fans moved on to doge coin and stopped caring about hyperloop. He’s never claimed his fans pushed him to do this. To say "he never wanted to do it " is a dishonest and contradictory analysis.
Also, you are just moving the goalposts now. You asked me which Elon Musk idea was supposed to be big but flopped. Now you say it doesn’t matter what he claimed is supposed to happen, he has to back it. Excuse me, is that what anyone believes the word “idea” means? In order for something to be an idea do you have to invest in it? And apparently investing $37 million is not enough for something to be considered an idea. You are making a fool of yourself.
I saw a nice video of the test run on the test track that our sister plant built for the Hyperloop. That was years ago and I’ve heard nothing since. I think Virgin is building something similar and the design seemed to be further along.
Ok, ok maybe it’s not fair to say he never wanted to do it, so it’s a good thing I didn’t. Look there’s no need to get worked up. He did say his fans pushed him to do it, in his biography. You can go read it if you want, it’s probably available at a nearby library. The competition was sponsored by SpaceX and the white paper based on a previously existing concept and written mostly by other engineers. Musk just took all the credit.
I’m not trying to move the goalposts here. I’m just referring to the original question, in response to your example of musk claiming toothbrushing is revolutionary. Which I know is exaggerated obviously, but my point is that musk claiming something does not make it the next big thing. Musk may claim lots of things but the ideas he actually believes in enough to personally work on have succeeded.*
*At least so far. Personally I think the boring company thing is going to be a total flop, but it’s too early to say for sure.
Ok, ok maybe it’s not fair to say he never wanted to do it, so it’s a good thing I didn’t.
Yet you say “Musk didn’t actually want to do it” in the message I replied to.
Assuming Musk actually had any original ideas.
Whatever the fuck the tesla tunnel is called.
Loop. And yes, it failed.
Hyper loop is the biggest one.
One of our sister plants built the equipment too control the Hyperloop test track. I think it worked. I suspect that the hurdles of getting it implemented are cost prohibitive.
He thinks rockets are going to replace airplanes for intercontinental travel
The Las Vegas Loop
Google glass 👓 😅
- smartwatches: flopped hard because they couldn’t prove their value over your phone. They’re slowly coming back now as companies see their value lies in a few key things like fitness
- smart wear (mostly google, as usual)
- I guess a lot ar / vr stuff was hyped before the tech was really ready and went nowhere
- and as others have mentioned most stuff related to web3 and blockchain
- quibi?
God, how could I forget Quibi!?
Metaverse
NFTs!
Betamax, Minidisc, VR, 3D TVs
I loved the Minidiscs. It’s really sad, that they haven’t made it 🙁
I forgot that one of my TVs is a 3D TV until reading your comment. I remember it came with “Shrek: The Complete Collection” in 3D. I don’t even know if the shutter glasses it came with are still around.
I’ve never noticed nearly as drastic a difference with 2D vs 3D movies as the marketing boasts, same with TVs. When a screen mostly fills your field of view, my mind tends to make it feel 3D all on its own. Anyone else feel this?
Oh god, where do I even start?
- VidMe and Vlare.
- Vanillo.
- 3D TV’s.
- Onecoin.
- XML.
- Ubuntu Touch.
- OS/2 WARP. (unfortunately.)
- Mir and Unity. Not the game engine.
- PeerTube.
- Foldable smartphones.
- Virtual assistants.
- Dual-screen smartphones.
- Ruqqus.
- Zune.
- Windows Phone.
- Firefox OS.
- Silverlight.
- Tru64.
- Theranos.
- ZTE Hawkeye.
- PlayStation Home.
- There.
Virtual assistants weren’t as big as expected, but I wouldn’t say they flopped.
Also, peertube, foldable smartphones, linux mobile (ubuntu touch might be an exception) are all still in early stages, its a bit early to say they flopped.
To be fair, at least Theranos and Onecoin were outright scams. They were never intended to be the next big thing so much a get even richer quick scheme.
I had to do a double take there. I read Theranos as Thanos the first time around :)
Crypto
Please specify which “crypto”?
Cryptography is doing just fine, thank you very much. I presume you meant “cryptocurrency” here?
Bitcoin should have led to global currency reform, for a start. That failed. It could still lead to energy reform and other important societal progress. But regulation and other factors are killing it.
Bitcoin and its alternatives could never have been a currency. It’s eminently unsuited to that role. (It’s great for Ponzi schemes, extortion schemes, and other criminal enterprises mind.) And how does “using more energy than a medium-sized nation while doing three orders of magnitude fewer transactions than even ONE payment processor” translate to “energy reform”?
Please, dude, stop being a cryptobro. It’s a really bad look.
I’ve spent too much time explaining currency theory to purple who aren’t really interested. So if you have a specific question I can answer it. But not many questions and not a debate.
The industrial revolution
and its consequences
Google glass, these spying eyeglasses that google made a huge push for back in like 2015. Turns out even then nobody wanted google spying on everything they can see, and going out in public looking like a hailcorporate tool.
That was less so because of the privacy issues and more because they were very experimental but google billed them as viable. If google had stuck to it and fixed the issues I would argue they would be a bit of a thing today.
I am pretty sure that the head of our repair group was using some Google glasses for some motor repair training. The teachers were remote and the Google glasses were their eyes for reviewing the progress of the trainees.
Facebook is doing it now. In collaboration with Ray Ban. And they have even opened brand new brick and mortar storefronts around this.
Snapchat has been doing it for years with their Spectacles products, too
Corporations really can’t innovate at all, lmao
It happens all the time. People don’t innovate from scratch. They take designs that work and tweak them for improvements. Eventually those improvements get repurposed for something else. The first mining truck inverter we built was just a tweaked and repurposed locomotive inverter. The last mining truck we built before handing of that product to another facility was the world’s first all electric mining truck.
Cloud gaming.
I play the most on Nvidia GeForce Now. The restrictions imposed by the publishers fragmenting availability of games is awful, but the experience for games I can play is great. It takes a geographically close datacenter and low latency link (I have fiber, pings to Nvidia are generally <8ms), I don’t think it works well otherwise.
Capitalism, it was the new hot shit after feudalism, but it just caused colonialism, imperialism, and causes mass starvation because there has to be a massive reserve army of labor. It also leads to cyclical economic collapses which impoverish more people at the bottom while enriching people at the top, creating an oligarchy.
Capitalism sounds like feudalism with extra steps.
Vidme and Vlare, which were both potential alternatives to YouTube but were shut down due to lack of funding.
This starts to make sense when you realize that YouTube was confirmed to NOT be making a making a profit as late as 2015, and potentially still isn’t. Apparently, having a profitable video streaming business is just hard. The only reason that Google can do it is because they’re rich AF and can afford to do the shotgun method of continuing to operate it at a loss for a long time and hope it becomes profitable eventually.
Ubuntu touch is amazing. If you want a Linux phone, I always give the advice of not getting a Pinephone. A Google Pixel 3a or Oneplus One running Ubuntu touch are faster, more feature packed, and easier than a Pinephone.
- NFT
- Web3
- Metaverse
- Matrix 4 - my opinion
Need more?
Honestly I think web3 will never hit mainstream, mainly because its inferior in the things that regular people care about, e.g. speed and simplicity
- NFT is already a flop, people steal art to make money out of it.
- Web3 is flop too, Internet has no numbers and decentralization already exist.
- Metaverse is another term for something that already exist.
- Matrix 4 is my own opinion.
It is all trash, I do not see nor I am wrong here. Already posted tons of evidence for this.
Deal with it.
I just use “cope harder” instead of saying deal with it now
Twitter ruined me.
Web3 was never anything at all. Just a buzzword. Ask people to actually describe what web3 is. Nobody can name anything specific that would be an improvement.
too soon
Most of these are still very new…
What has this to do with anything at all? Something can be new and still flop, directly.
inshallah
